Don’t Sink Atlantis!
By Wolfen Moondaughter @ PinkRaygun.com
An open letter to Brad Wright, as well as MGM and Sci Fi Channel’s executives, regarding the recent cancellation of Stargate Atlantis:
What the hell are you thinking????
Mr Wright, did you not watch your own episode? “The Shrine” was phenomenal, a shining example of what I look for in a good story of any genre. And you expect us to be able to just let the series go, much less be happy to do so, after a gem like that? I’d hug you for writing one of my very favourite episodes of the series, but, in the spirit of my name, Wolfie, I have a strong urge to bite now.
I see that, in a press release put out the other day, MGM exec Charles Cohen had this to say:
The Stargate franchise enjoys a loyal and substantial fan base that welcomes each new installment with fevered enthusiasm.
I felt sick reading that. Let me point out a serious flaw in this logic: when Atlantis began, is was billed in addition to it’s predecessor, SG-1. Not in lieu of. A good many of us are decidedly unfevered and unenthusiastic regarding Universe.
For myself, I already wasn’t all that keen on the premise of Universe. Understand, I’m not one of those ones who says that a concept shouldn’t be explored from multiple angles, would never say a franchise shouldn’t visit territory already covered by another franchise (or even within itself), but it was a depressing enough concept in Star Trek: Voyager, and therefore is not plot device I’m eager to revisit. David Hewlett summed up my feelings very well in a recent Gateworld interview:
I don’t want us to be completely distanced from SG-1. The whole point is that this is all part of the same universe. There has to be that crossover stuff and that back and forth.
I adore crossovers; it’s one of the reasons why I gave Atlantis a shot. Given that, by it’s very nature, Universe won’t have many options for crossovers with SG-1 or Atlantis, it seems its very name is inappropriate — it should be “Cut Off From the Stargate Universe“!
And I’m not alone in my sentiment. I have noted a great many fans — on Mallozzi’s blog, at Gateworld, and in other ‘Gate-related communities I frequent, as well as in the general sf fandom blogsphere — saying that they had little interest in Stargate Universe to begin with, but would have tried it if it were aired in conjunction with Atlantis. Now that it seems Atlantis was axed so that Universe could get made, they refuse to try it. Despite my misgivings, I was, when I first got wind of it, willing to at least try the new show, particularly given the source, but with this news, you can forget it.
Now, I’m not foolish enough to think that the opinions that are espoused on the net usually represent more than a small fraction of the people who actually watch shows, but coupling it with the fact that everyone in my circle of friends has said exactly that, even people who don’t frequent the net, I’m inclined to believe it’s more than just a handful of loud voices, that they are representative of thousands of fans who are keeping to themselves. So ask yourselves — can you afford to lose even 5% of the viewership? What if I’m right, and that representation is actually much higher? Just because past incarnations of a franchise have done well does not, by any means, guarantee that subsequent ones will.
Ask yourselves — why should we the fans stay loyal to you? Why should we start watching another show, when you may pull the same stuff on us again when that show reaches the five-year mark? You’re becoming like drug pushers — you hook us in, they fix it so we have to pay through the nose if we want more! I could have bought each episode for two bucks a piece on Unbox — twenty hours for about forty dollars. And if TV changes in such a way where I would have to pay two dollars to watch an ep no matter what, because sponsor dollars weren’t enough to get it made anymore, I would do it, and consider it fair. Now, with the “movies”, I have to pay about twenty for just a little over one episode. Thing is, I was going to do that anyway; even if the show had gone on for ten seasons, I would have bought the movies after! So you’re taking advantage of the fact that you knew we would buy the movies, and are short-changing us. You’re taking advantage of our love of our “friends”, and are going to essentially hold them hostage for an exorbitant amount of money!
We were asked to spread the word, to pimp the franchise on our sites and blogs, to get our friends to watch. We did that. We were asked to buy the DVDS and show MGM that we still want to see SG-1. We did that, because we do love SG-1 and now the movies are our only way to visit our friends again. We were asked to watch Atlantis live, rather than DVR it, and many of us did so; this season had enjoyed stronger live numbers than ever. We did it to save the show we loved — not to support a new pet project for Wright. You think we are being rewarded for our efforts?? It’s like taking our help under false pretenses! We fought to keep a home we loved, and now are being expected to live someplace many of us have no interest in, only being allowed to revisit the place we tried to save on the rare odd weekend.
Since we bought the movies, you figured we would be content with just movies for Atlantis too. It looks to me that you will discover you were wrong.
I understand that this is business, that making a movie instead of a full TV season for Atlantis is more cost-effective for you. But that’s only true if we watch Universe, isn’t it? If we don’t, you’ll have wasted a hell of a lot of money on a new series. Considering that, despite the extreme popularity of the novels it was based on, The Dresden Files flopped, you shouldn’t count your chickens, boyos. Sci Fi people, can you afford to have yet another new series fail? Why would you voluntarily give up another potential year of strong numbers like that? One of my prerequisites for my TV service was that it carry Sci Fi, so I could watch Stargate shows and Doctor Who. Now I can watch Who on BBC America (belatedly, but I’ll live), so if Sci Fi is taken from the basic package, as it has been in some areas, you won’t see me shelling out the extra bucks or complaining to the provider over it; I won’t fight to keep it. Not like I’m fighting to keep Atlantis now (which, I should point out, would have been the perfect lead-in for Universe, just as SG-1 was for Atlantis!)
Universe could have waited at least one more season, if you (MGM or Sci Fi) couldn’t afford to do both. There’s still plenty of life left in Atlantis, far more than can fit in an occasional hour-and-a-half movie. Doctor Who survived for what? Twenty-five years in its first run? And even came back for another go, so don’t even try that “it’s run it’s course, there are no more stories to tell” party-line garbage with me. Buffy’s seven years, Next Gen’s nine, and SG-1’s ten years are all proof enough for me that ending at five is premature.
It’s this simple: renew Atlantis for at least one more season, and I’ll give Universe a fair shot. Even if I still don’t like it, at least you will have me watching Atlantis on a weekly basis, so you can’t lose there. (The only way you could is if McKay or Sheppard left, because I watch for their relationship, so be warned there, too — if you bring it back, they both must be kept on the show at all costs.) But keep Atlantis as canceled, and I promise you that I won’t be tuning in to Universe. And I promise I won’t be the only ‘Gater who won’t, either.
Most Sincerely and Vehemently,
Stacy Hausl, AKA Wolfen Moondaughter
- Source: www.pinkraygun.com
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September 28th, 2008 at 2:41 am
Stargate Atlantis was at the peak of it television ratings and why do you MGM Cancel
it it has been a part of my life for 5 years it sohuld be able to come back for at leat 3-4 more years.
even tho i live in Canada and we are a year behind on the Space Imagination Station
Doing a Movie wont help us fans
December 2nd, 2008 at 5:52 am
all i can say is i hope we get our show and nice work on putting all this up man.
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:35 am
Hi,
I started the last penny campaign on sci-fi boards about 2 days after learning about the cancellation –it has spread to live journal and is posted a few more places like gateworld and a postcard pledged count on youchoose.com
I am in the process of making a website, to Save SGA, but now I see this and it’s far better than what I have made (could ever make) w/ wix.com. Is there anyway we could combine forces? I keep getting people telling me I need to make a live journal page, but I haven’t had the time –plus, I think a website like this should be primary. There is already a save atlantis (well, fight-for-atlantis) board there.
I made several types of postcards w/ a penny design on them (even a UK version.) You can view most by download on sci-fi thread listed below. And have about 3 different wordings for postcards that have been suggested, and that I’ve tweaked a bit — ranging from boycotting to asking nicely (this last choice due to some thinking the boycott was too harsh, and others thinking it’s too difficult to get everyone behind that message.
My plan was to try to hit MGM with a tidal wave of postcards as close to the series finale as possible. If it would be possible that the postcard (and package — I wanted them to sign for each package — costs 2.80, but learned it wouldn’t work the way I had hoped — still think a smaller place than MGM involved w/ the decision could be overwhelmed by such a thing and feel compelled to listen.)
Anyhow, it’s pretty late and I need to get some sleep. I haven’t had the chance to look at much on your site yet, but do you have a way to create a mailing list? (email,that is) Some
people have suggested that if we send out reminders and updates we’ll get more participants.
If you think this could work, please email me or post on sci-fi boards at http://forums.scifi.com/index.php?showtopic=2319230&st=40
SGAfan4life : )
December 8th, 2008 at 11:36 pm
MGM has ruined my Weekends by ruining Friday nights. Don’t take Stargate Atlantis away!!!!
Atlantis is what my wife and I look forward to on Friday nights, it’s a great kick-off for the weekend!
We relax with the group of Atlantis and are better for that; We had to except SG 1 leaving, but with Colonel Carter going to Atlantis as well as some of the others visiting - it helped to let us down easily.
I don’t ‘get’ Sancturary, but my wife loves it. We both DON’T LIKE ‘ BattleStar Galactica It is too different from the orginial that we watched in the 80’s.
You give us something terrific then pull it from us! My wife and I join the ranks of having less reason to watch Sci-Fi so MGM is damaging Sci-Fi and the viewers.
I now have nothing to look forward to on Friday night T.V., no unwinding in sight!!!!!
Now that I won’t be relaxing. . . my wife won’t like me either!!!!
I’m having a fit now that SMALLVILLE is in reruns and now with Atlantis going away. . . I am NOT a happy camper!!!!!!! My wife will be avoiding my with my GRUMPY moods on Fridays now without Atlantis to unwind with!!! and my son sometimes sits with me ( that is very unusual) to watch the show. It helps with ‘father and son’ time.
This reminds me of the car makers!!!
They finally hit on a good car style, . . . then once they are popular the model gets pulled. The makers stop making that style and re-design with a less likable style. Let’s keep the model that works for the people!!!!!
Forget the crappy substitutes that don’t ‘hold a candle’ to the predocessor!!!!!
Think!!! There are many many more quiet voices out there that are disappointed with MGM’s decesssion to cancel Stargate Atlantis - MGM is angering alot of people!!!!!!!
. . . Oh, by the way. . . we miss Tremors too!
Another good show falls to the dust!!!!
Just like the car makers. Takes away the good stuff and leaves the ‘crappy’ stuff.
December 8th, 2008 at 11:37 pm
MGM has ruined my Weekends by ruining Friday nights. Don’t take Stargate Atlantis away!!!!
Atlantis is what my wife and I look forward to on Friday nights, it’s a great kick-off for the weekend!
We relax with the group of Atlantis and are better for that; We had to except SG 1 leaving, but with Colonel Carter going to Atlantis as well as some of the others visiting - it helped to let us down easily.
I don’t ‘get’ Sancturary, but my wife loves it. We both DON’T LIKE ‘ BattleStar Galactica It is too different from the orginial that we watched in the 80’s.
You give us something terrific then pull it from us! My wife and I join the ranks of having less reason to watch Sci-Fi so MGM is damaging Sci-Fi and the viewers.
I now have nothing to look forward to on Friday night T.V., no unwinding in sight!!!!!
Now that I won’t be relaxing. . . my wife won’t like me either!!!!
I’m having a fit now that SMALLVILLE is in reruns and now with Atlantis going away. . . I am NOT a happy camper!!!!!!! My wife will be avoiding my with my GRUMPY moods on Fridays now without Atlantis to unwind with!!! and my son sometimes sits with me ( that is very unusual) to watch the show. It helps with ‘father and son’ time.
This reminds me of the car makers!!!
They finally hit on a good car style, . . . then once they are popular the model gets pulled. The makers stop making that style and re-design with a less likable style. Let’s keep the model that works for the people!!!!!
Forget the crappy substitutes that don’t ‘hold a candle’ to the predocessor!!!!!
Think!!! There are many many more quiet voices out there that are disappointed with MGM’s decesssion to cancel Stargate Atlantis - MGM is angering alot of people!!!!!!!
. . . Oh, by the way. . . we miss Tremors too!
MGM has ruined my Weekends by ruining Friday nights. Don’t take Stargate Atlantis away!!!!
Atlantis is what my wife and I look forward to on Friday nights, it’s a great kick-off for the weekend!
We relax with the group of Atlantis and are better for that; We had to except SG 1 leaving, but with Colonel Carter going to Atlantis as well as some of the others visiting - it helped to let us down easily.
I don’t ‘get’ Sancturary, but my wife loves it. We both DON’T LIKE ‘ BattleStar Galactica It is too different from the orginial that we watched in the 80’s.
You give us something terrific then pull it from us! My wife and I join the ranks of having less reason to watch Sci-Fi so MGM is damaging Sci-Fi and the viewers.
I now have nothing to look forward to on Friday night T.V., no unwinding in sight!!!!!
Now that I won’t be relaxing. . . my wife won’t like me either!!!!
I’m having a fit now that SMALLVILLE is in reruns and now with Atlantis going away. . . I am NOT a happy camper!!!!!!! My wife will be avoiding my with my GRUMPY moods on Fridays now without Atlantis to unwind with!!! and my son sometimes sits with me ( that is very unusual) to watch the show. It helps with ‘father and son’ time.
This reminds me of the car makers!!!
They finally hit on a good car style, . . . then once they are popular the model gets pulled. The makers stop making that style and re-design with a less likable style. Let’s keep the model that works for the people!!!!!
Forget the crappy substitutes that don’t ‘hold a candle’ to the predocessor!!!!!
Think!!! There are many many more quiet voices out there that are disappointed with MGM’s decesssion to cancel Stargate Atlantis - MGM is angering alot of people!!!!!!!
. . . Oh, by the way. . . we miss Tremors too!
Another good show falls to the dust!!!!
Just like the car makers. Takes away the good stuff and leaves the ‘crappy’ stuff. MGM has ruined my Weekends by ruining Friday nights. Don’t take Stargate Atlantis away!!!!
Atlantis is what my wife and I look forward to on Friday nights, it’s a great kick-off for the weekend!
We relax with the group of Atlantis and are better for that; We had to except SG 1 leaving, but with Colonel Carter going to Atlantis as well as some of the others visiting - it helped to let us down easily.
I don’t ‘get’ Sancturary, but my wife loves it. We both DON’T LIKE ‘ BattleStar Galactica It is too different from the orginial that we watched in the 80’s.
You give us something terrific then pull it from us! My wife and I join the ranks of having less reason to watch Sci-Fi so MGM is damaging Sci-Fi and the viewers.
I now have nothing to look forward to on Friday night T.V., no unwinding in sight!!!!!
Now that I won’t be relaxing. . . my wife won’t like me either!!!!
I’m having a fit now that SMALLVILLE is in reruns and now with Atlantis going away. . . I am NOT a happy camper!!!!!!! My wife will be avoiding my with my GRUMPY moods on Fridays now without Atlantis to unwind with!!! and my son sometimes sits with me ( that is very unusual) to watch the show. It helps with ‘father and son’ time.
This reminds me of the car makers!!!
They finally hit on a good car style, . . . then once they are popular the model gets pulled. The makers stop making that style and re-design with a less likable style. Let’s keep the model that works for the people!!!!!
Forget the crappy substitutes that don’t ‘hold a candle’ to the predocessor!!!!!
Think!!! There are many many more quiet voices out there that are disappointed with MGM’s decesssion to cancel Stargate Atlantis - MGM is angering alot of people!!!!!!!
. . . Oh, by the way. . . we miss Tremors too!
Another good show falls to the dust!!!!
Just like the car makers. Takes away the good stuff and leaves the ‘crappy’ stuff. MGM has ruined my Weekends by ruining Friday nights. Don’t take Stargate Atlantis away!!!!
Atlantis is what my wife and I look forward to on Friday nights, it’s a great kick-off for the weekend!
We relax with the group of Atlantis and are better for that; We had to except SG 1 leaving, but with Colonel Carter going to Atlantis as well as some of the others visiting - it helped to let us down easily.
I don’t ‘get’ Sancturary, but my wife loves it. We both DON’T LIKE ‘ BattleStar Galactica It is too different from the orginial that we watched in the 80’s.
You give us something terrific then pull it from us! My wife and I join the ranks of having less reason to watch Sci-Fi so MGM is damaging Sci-Fi and the viewers.
I now have nothing to look forward to on Friday night T.V., no unwinding in sight!!!!!
Now that I won’t be relaxing. . . my wife won’t like me either!!!!
I’m having a fit now that SMALLVILLE is in reruns and now with Atlantis going away. . . I am NOT a happy camper!!!!!!! My wife will be avoiding my with my GRUMPY moods on Fridays now without Atlantis to unwind with!!! and my son sometimes sits with me ( that is very unusual) to watch the show. It helps with ‘father and son’ time.
This reminds me of the car makers!!!
They finally hit on a good car style, . . . then once they are popular the model gets pulled. The makers stop making that style and re-design with a less likable style. Let’s keep the model that works for the people!!!!!
Forget the crappy substitutes that don’t ‘hold a candle’ to the predocessor!!!!!
Think!!! There are many many more quiet voices out there that are disappointed with MGM’s decesssion to cancel Stargate Atlantis - MGM is angering alot of people!!!!!!!
. . . Oh, by the way. . . we miss Tremors too!
Another good show falls to the dust!!!!
Just like the car makers. Takes away the good stuff and leaves the ‘crappy’ stuff.
Another good show falls to the dust!!!!
Just like the car makers. Takes away the good stuff and leaves the ‘crappy’ stuff.
December 8th, 2008 at 11:38 pm
MGM has ruined my Weekends by ruining Friday nights. Don’t take Stargate Atlantis away!!!!
Atlantis is what my wife and I look forward to on Friday nights, it’s a great kick-off for the weekend!
We relax with the group of Atlantis and are better for that; We had to except SG 1 leaving, but with Colonel Carter going to Atlantis as well as some of the others visiting - it helped to let us down easily.
I don’t ‘get’ Sancturary, but my wife loves it. We both DON’T LIKE ‘ BattleStar Galactica It is too different from the orginial that we watched in the 80’s.
You give us something terrific then pull it from us! My wife and I join the ranks of having less reason to watch Sci-Fi so MGM is damaging Sci-Fi and the viewers.
I now have nothing to look forward to on Friday night T.V., no unwinding in sight!!!!!
Now that I won’t be relaxing. . . my wife won’t like me either!!!!
I’m having a fit now that SMALLVILLE is in reruns and now with Atlantis going away. . . I am NOT a happy camper!!!!!!! My wife will be avoiding my with my GRUMPY moods on Fridays now without Atlantis to unwind with!!! and my son sometimes sits with me ( that is very unusual) to watch the show. It helps with ‘father and son’ time.
This reminds me of the car makers!!!
They finally hit on a good car style, . . . then once they are popular the model gets pulled. The makers stop making that style and re-design with a less likable style. Let’s keep the model that works for the people!!!!!
Forget the crappy substitutes that don’t ‘hold a candle’ to the predocessor!!!!!
Think!!! There are many many more quiet voices out there that are disappointed with MGM’s decesssion to cancel Stargate Atlantis - MGM is angering alot of people!!!!!!!
. . . Oh, by the way. . . we miss Tremors too!
Another good show falls to the dust!!!!
Just like the car makers. Takes away the good stuff and leaves the ‘crappy’ stuff.
Beemeek will no longer me my description I will be Mr. Grumpy thanks to no more Atlantis!!!!!!
December 8th, 2008 at 11:42 pm
MGM has ruined my Weekends by ruining Friday nights. Don’t take Stargate Atlantis away!!!!
Atlantis is what my wife and I look forward to on Friday nights, it’s a great kick-off for the weekend!
We relax with the group of Atlantis and are better for that; We had to except SG 1 leaving, but with Colonel Carter going to Atlantis as well as some of the others visiting - it helped to let us down easily.
I don’t ‘get’ Sancturary, but my wife loves it. We both DON’T LIKE ‘ BattleStar Galactica It is too different from the orginial that we watched in the 80’s.
You give us something terrific then pull it from us! My wife and I join the ranks of having less reason to watch Sci-Fi so MGM is damaging Sci-Fi and the viewers.
I now have nothing to look forward to on Friday night T.V., no unwinding in sight!!!!!
Now that I won’t be relaxing. . . my wife won’t like me either!!!!
I’m having a fit now that SMALLVILLE is in reruns and now with Atlantis going away. . . I am NOT a happy camper!!!!!!! My wife will be avoiding my with my GRUMPY moods on Fridays now without Atlantis to unwind with!!! and my son sometimes sits with me ( that is very unusual) to watch the show. It helps with ‘father and son’ time.
This reminds me of the car makers!!!
They finally hit on a good car style, . . . then once they are popular the model gets pulled. The makers stop making that style and re-design with a less likable style. Let’s keep the model that works for the people!!!!!
Forget the crappy substitutes that don’t ‘hold a candle’ to the predocessor!!!!!
Think!!! There are many many more quiet voices out there that are disappointed with MGM’s decesssion to cancel Stargate Atlantis - MGM is angering alot of people!!!!!!!
. . . Oh, by the way. . . we miss Tremors too!
Another good show falls to the dust!!!!
Just like the car makers. Takes away the good stuff and leaves the ‘crappy’ stuff.
LIFE itself is depressing,,, now I won’t have Atlanis to help me. I’ll just be depressed!!!!!!! You have taken away that last little bit of light. Sooooooo depressing. Now my wife will be depressed too!!!!! with mr. grumpy!!!
Soon to be very depressed Mr. Grumpy!